Moving : Expat Housing in Rio de Janeiro

I’ve just moved across Rio de Janeiro for my first time (spoiler alert: it also ended up being my last)

My seach for expat housing in Rio de Janeiro included encountering varied and seemingly nonsensible rental prices.

In one building, I looked at old decrepit dirty units asking for 30% higher per month than another unit in the same building that was bright, clean, larger, and modern.

I struggled with where to live in Rio de Janeiro, and how to find an apartment.

I’ve realized it is really important to live in a good area where you feel safe and comfortable. Especially as a woman in Rio de Janeiro, not everywhere feels very comfortable, with the catcalling and harassment.

I prefer to live near (walking distance) to the metro. I don’t EVER take the bus, so being on a bus route wouldn’t matter. I thought I would really like to ride my bike around, but aside from the path along the beach and a few other specially indicated bike paths, I don’t feel very safe (from motor traffic) and sometimes its just too darn hot! [sidenote: my bike got stolen after 3 months of buying it so that’s now irrelevant]

I took a while to weigh the pros and cons of the neighborhoods in Zona Sul (where most expats live), and first I searched within the neighborhoods of Leblon, Ipanema, Botafogo, and Copacabana – because I feel most safe and comfortable there. Eventually, I ruled out Leblon as it is too far from the metro. Then, canceled Botafogo for its (relative) long length from the beach. I settled on Ipanema and Copacabana, and ended up choosing the edge of Copacabana (near Leme) for my final choice.

I love Leme and would highly recommend the neighborhood to any potential expats in Rio de Janeiro. Great prices, near to the beach, safe, and with lots of shops, a mall (RioSul), restaurants, and groceries.

Rio de Janeiro Apartment Expat Leme Copacabana

the “new” apartment patio view

The unit I settled on is in an older building, but with a pool and gym and 24 hour security and doormen and porters.

Rio de Janeiro Apartment Expat Leme Copacabana

The apartment itself is modern, with an aaaaamazing shower (you forget what a difference a good shower really really makes, until you experience it again), super modern kitchen (ohmygawd an oven!), and big balcony with a view of the city and the mountain. I found the unit through airbnb.com, and was introduced to a proxy for the owner who was away. We settled on a “great” price around 1000USD per month including utilities.

Rio de Janeiro Apartment Expat Leme Copacabana

Unlike Bangkok, Rio does not have the same amenities, nor even close to a sane quality for price ratio. The cost of living in Rio de Janeiro is quite high, especially when compared to Bangkok, and this applies to apartments especially.

Its difficult to find an apartment of livable standard for less than 1100USD per month in a central area, and that is likely small, outdated, and almost certainly does not include a pool or gym.

It is more common in Rio than in Bangkok to live in shared houses or shared apartments, where rooms are rented individually. Average costs for a private room in a shared apartment/house, in a central area, but most likely not including pool or gym, starts from 700USD. It is also extremely common for Brazilians to live at home with their parents until marriage, due in part to the high apartment costs.

Rio de Janeiro Apartment Expat Leme Copacabana

new bedroom

BUT I found a really great apartment for a good (Rio.. not Bangkok) value. My choices were further limited as I needed a dog friendly location, as I’m bringing my pup Mickey with me.

How I would move in Rio if I were to do it again..

Learn from my mistakes on expat living in Rio de Janeiro:

1. Don’t live five tall floors up with no elevator.

No view is worth the inconvenience, it seriously makes you think twice before leaving your house. Being an expat in Rio can be lonely enough, especially at first, and isolating yourself in some sort of Rapunzelesque living situation is only going to make you feel more alone.

Vidigal Apartment Expat Rio de Janeiro

my first home in Rio de Janeiro

2. Use airbnb.com to find an apartment

This is especially true if you don’t speak Portuguese (and if you want to learn Portuguese – check out this school). Most rental agents DON’T speak Portuguese, but many on Airbnb do.

If you can speak Portuguese, or have a friend that does, and you want a longterm lease, another option is to stop into any of the number of real estate offices in Zona Sul. You’ll notice them by the ads plastered on the windows for houses. These tend to have the best rates.

 

3. Double check anything a unit owner tells you, with the building operator / front desk

There seems to be a tendency in Brazil to oversell everything. Anything of importance, ALWAYS double check.

 

4. Get it in writing

If you’re promised anything, put it in writing and have all parties sign it. This goes from parking space, to who is responsible for paying the utilities. Rio is quite casual and things may be verbally promised without the necessary intention to follow through

 

5. Definitely have a rental car if you’re moving a lot of stuff

Or borrow a friend’s car if you have more than a taxi’s worth of stuff. First off, you don’t want to risk an unscrupulous driver fleeing with all your prized possessions while you attempt to move in. And it’s just way easier.

 

6. Start packing in advance

Give yourself plenty of time to sell or give away anything you don’t want to move. There’s no sense in moving something you plan on getting rid of eventually anyway.

 

7. Start moving early

To avoid the traffic and heat. Even better if you can manage moving on a weekend

 

8. Plan a housewarming

Having a celebration or relaxation night give you motivation to get through the drudgery of the day. Bonus points for throwing a post-move casual dinner party for your helpers.

 

9. Have less stuff.

My most important realization, which pushed me further towards minimalism – why do I have so much stuff??? BUY LESS STUFF SO THERE IS LESS STUFF TO MOVE!!!!


 

On move-in day, I finished up packing [ughhhh packing], loaded the car, and headed to my new place! I was so excited to finally move in I could barely sleep for a whole week leading up to the move.

When I arrived to my new home, the porter came to my car to help me load my boxes and bags (how nice! one benefit that Bangkok did not have).

I began to walk inside, and was abruptly stopped by the doorman. He pointed at my dog and said (in Portuguese), “He can’t come in.”

Upon further confirmation, it was confirmed that dogs are not allowed. OMG.

Before paying for three months in cash up front, I had checked and double checked with the owner of the unit that dogs are allowed inside.

And now, I’m clearly being screwed.

On the verge of tears (okay, actually, really crying. no verge here.) and totally incapable of rational thought (the repeating thoughts in my mind OMG I’ve just moved out, All my things are here, I paid for three months up front, I’ve lost all this money, I need to find a new place, What am I going to do?!?) my friend helped me by contacting the owner and her proxy, and after a confusing half hour it was determined that dogs ARE actually allowed in the residential area of the apartment (the building also features a hotel).

Dogs aren’t allowed in the lobby, and they need to be registered in advance (would have been GREAT to have been told this one!).

So, teary-eyed, we moved in. For real.

 

Ugh. Moving.

Necessary Details: Rio de Janeiro

What Else to Do in Rio de Janeiro
Check out my full guide to Rio de Janeiro here, which includes the best suggestions for hiking (including my favorite Morro do Leme hike), where to eat, weekend getaways from the city (including Buzios), and the best beaches.
You can read every article I’ve ever written about Rio de Janeiro (and there’s a lot: I lived there for almost two years!) here.
Viator offers a bunch of different Rio de Janeiro tour options, including for visiting Christ the Redeemer, and provides excellent customer service and refunds if anything goes wrong — much more than local operators would do.
Where to Stay in Rio de Janeiro
If you have around $100 per night to spend, you can’t get a better value than Rio 180 hotel — each room is a suite and has its own private hot tub along with incredible views!
For a wider range of pricing options, check here
How to Arrive to Rio de Janeiro 
You can take the bus into Rio de Janeiro from many destinations within Brazil, but most people choose to fly. While Copa Airlines isn’t my favorite carrier, they do usually offer the cheapest flights. To check the latest low prices on airfare to Brazil, try Skyscanner , or if you have some date and/or destination flexibility and want to score the absolute lowest prices, try Kiwi.com.
Visa information for Brazil and Visa Renewal in Rio de Janeiro
I’ve written an extensive post (along with Q&A about the topic in the comments) here

 

What do you think of expat housing in Rio de Janeiro? Have you ever moved?

Steph

A short vacation in Thailand turned into a life abroad with a canceled ticket home. 6 years later and after living in Bangkok, Rio de Janeiro, Mexico City, and Puebla, Steph is on to her next adventure and living in sunny Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. She is traveling and living around the world to find the beautiful, inspirational, and interesting while sharing it with you!

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5 Comments

  1. June 4, 2015 / 8:29 pm

    You are so, so right about the shower. The one in my current apartment is pathetic and every time and travel and stay in a hotel I want to compose an opera about the joy that is a hot shower with decent water pressure. We have a dog here in Brazil as well and I totally would have freaked out similarly in your situation. I’m glad it worked out and hope you’re loving your new home!

  2. John
    July 19, 2017 / 1:14 am

    Hi there! Great info. Have the rents remained about the same or skyrocketed as they seem to have done in many large cities, such as here in New York, in Toronto Canada, etc.? How is healthcare? And what kind of process dies immigration invokvevfir Americans? Do Canadians get treated better? (I have dual citizenship.) Would you bebkind enough to respond to my email address? I am so grateful. John (nycman5933@aol.com)

    • Steph
      Author
      July 19, 2017 / 9:16 am

      Hi John,
      When I lived in Rio shortly before the Olympics, we paid $1000USD per month for a furnished, small 1 bedroom 1 bathroom in a high-rise building with 24 hour security, on the border of Leme and Copacabana neighborhoods 3 blocks from the beach. This was by far the best deal we found, and included electricity, gas, water, and somewhat spotty wifi. I’m not familiar with New York or Toronto so I couldn’t compare, but I would assume Rio is significantly cheaper… especially as the safety situation has severely deteriorated after the Olympics.
      My healthcare experience was horrible. If you are a Brazilian, you get low cost (or free) healthcare, and foreigners are also welcome at the free Posto de Saude (we might call them Public Health) clinics, but expect long lines and long waits (and no air conditioning), and limited opening hours.
      I had an expat healthcare plan, so I chose one of the expensive hospitals, supposedly the best one in the city and supposedly with English speaking doctors. It was like something out of a nightmare. No private rooms or even screens, I had to sit in a chair in the “ER” (a huge open space with 20 other patients – no privacy) while having an IV drip for a severe internal infection. My husband wasn’t allowed to sit, even on the floor, and couldn’t have a chair – he had to stand for the entirety of my 12 hour treatment. The sanitation was incredibly bad, the chair covers weren’t changed between patients and none of the doctors changed their gloves between patients or washed their hands. Many didn’t even use gloves. I used to work in a hospital and a clinic after that, so I’m very aware to hygiene.
      Further – The charge was on par (if not higher) than what I would have got in the US. Let’s just say, Rio is not a medical tourism destination, as prices are high and quality is incredibly low.
      I had a special visa as a consultant for the Olympics, so I’m not sure how the regular immigration process works. You would need to have an offer and support from an employer if you want a working visa on a longer basis than the tourist visa (which forbids paid work).
      I didn’t experience any negativity due to my American passport, but I also didn’t know any Canadians, so I couldn’t say whether they fared better.

    • Steph
      Author
      July 19, 2017 / 9:46 am

      Sorry John, I tried to email but got an error message.
      nycman5933@aol.com
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      From: Stephanie Kempker Edri
      Subject: Question on JoyAndJourney.com
      Date: July 19, 2017 at 09:45:38 CDT
      To: nycman5933@aol.com

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