Mexico Expat Annoyances

What’s it like living in Mexico?

Generally: absolutely awesome. I’d choose to live here over the USA any day of the week (especially after the most recent election).

BUT (and there’s always a but) it’s completely facetious to pretend like I’m living in some kind of perfect utopia. That’s just not true.

While the pros of living in Mexico vastly outweigh the cons, at least for me, I’m certainly not suggesting that there aren’t any negatives to expat life in Mexico.

Unfortunately, any time I write MY OPINION about the perceived downsides of a place (like in this piece about Thailand, or this one about Brazil) I get a deluge of horrible emails and comments telling me what an entitled little b*tch I am (99.99% of the time from seemingly misogynistic grumpy old men). That’s just too bad, because I’m not going to play little Suzie Sunshine and I’m going to continue sharing my experience of ALL aspects of a place – not just the positives.

So, without further ado…

Here’s the negative aspects of what it is like to live in Mexico, the few minor (and not so minor) annoyances that bother me about expat life in Mexico.


Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: The noise.

Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Noise

All-night raging parties seem to be the norm, even in “family” neighborhoods. Your buttoned-up 45 year old bank manager neighbor will throw frat-style parties that would make even your hard-partying Pi Kappa Alpha brother shake his head in embarrassment, while this guy’s seven year old daughter is booty-dancing next to bros taking tequila shots… until 4 in the morning or later (or should I say, earlier?).

If you ask your neighbors to turn down the music because you work your exhausted ass off, and you can’t sleep because your windows are shaking 4 houses down – they’ll just shrug their shoulders and say, “But I’m having a party” like that’s some kind of understandable excuse for being kept up all night by what feels like a rock band in your living room.

It doesn’t matter if you pay twice as much to live in a “family” neighborhood, with strict rules including supposedly enforceable quiet hours, and silent hours, because…


Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: “Security” and cops don’t do shit.

Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Useless Security

Your neighborhood (fraccionamiento/cluster) or apartment building most likely has security (a word I use VERY loosely). They do pretty much nothing aside from announce the arrival of the pizza guy (and that’s only if you’re lucky) and hassle the maids.

But take heart. Even though your neighbors will party their asses off while you’re just trying to catch a few ZZZs before you head back to work, by calling the police and filing a report to the neighborhood office, you’ll at least make sure the party animals get smacked with a fine, to the tune of 5000-20000 pesos ($250-1000USD) for disrupting the peace and violating the rules.

The “filing a report with the neighborhood/building office” aspect of the above equation is ESSENTIAL because, again, the cops and the security don’t do shit. The only one with apparent authority is the office, because they’ve got the ability to dish out fines. No one gives a shit about neighborhood peace, but they don’t like having their parking permit revoked until they fork over hundreds of dollars.

Don’t get too cocky, though, because that lesson is soon forgotten, and there’ll be more surround sound speakers plopped on the lawn blasting musica norteña loud enough to rattle your doors until the sun comes up.


Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Classism.

Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Classism

While employing a maid is a common practice I won’t disagree with and actually really really enjoy (we have a cleaning lady come once a week, pay her a very fair wage, and it is AMAZING because I am horrible at cleaning), the way most people treat their maids is… gross. More like slaves and second class citizens than employees who provide an absolutely phenomenal service.

Many people make their maid wear a uniform (that either looks a bit like hospital scrubs or a bit too close to the French maid stereotype), use a separate entrance, and sometimes even a separate bathroom. A common way to refer to a maid is NOT by her name, but as “muchacha”, which roughly translates to “girl”… regardless of how old she is.

People who clean public spaces (like parks) also wear a uniform, typically bright colored and seemingly not very weather-aware (guys cleaning in the heat of summer are wearing thick canvas bodysuits).


Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Water is not a guarantee.

Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Water Instability

In Mexico City, we lost water for almost a day. Not so bad, until the water came back on, and we realized an hour into a movie that the sink faucet had been left open… flooding our ENTIRE apartment.

In Puebla, we lost it for almost a month. (In Rio we lost it for over a week when we lived in a 4th story walkup, and that’s a story from hell I won’t go into here. But it involves lugging water jugs up a ridiculous number of stairs).

One day, shortly after coming back from our wedding, the water pump at our house was constantly whizzing. We called our amazing handyman-on-speedial, and he popped over to help out. He brought me to the front driveway, lifted up a hatch (a la Lost), and showed me a huge empty tank.

Umm….

Apparently, water stoppages are common enough that many houses in planned communities will at least have a big tank underneath your driveway, which ends up costing about $30USD a week to keep water running through your pipes. Unless you check your tank by lifting up the hatch every day, you won’t know when the water is out. When you need a refill, you call up your water-guy-on-speedial (as you do), and ask him to come by when he can.

I don’t know if you’ve ever been without water for more than a few hours – but it’s not nice. I like showers. I like clean dishes. And going without water sure as hell made me more appreciative of this amazing resource I used to take for granted.

UPDATE: We now only receive water into our tank from the city 3 days a week (Monday, Wednesday, Friday) and at extremely variable times (sometimes 8am, sometimes 9pm, welcome to Mexico). We’ve got to budget accordingly and make sure Sunday isn’t both a sweaty exercise day (requiring hair washing) AND laundry day… lest we wake up on Monday without water to wash our hands, let alone take a pre-work shower (which apparently IS a thing, and an essential one, according to my husband at least).


Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Gas isn’t certain either.

Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Gas Questions

Apparently there aren’t citywide gas lines. Each house (or apartment building) has a big gas tank. We had no idea until we ran out of gas to cook breakfast one morning (thanks, landlord), as in Mexico City we had a gas meter and received a gas line directly into our apartment.

Now, when you figure out that you’ve run out of a gas, you call your gas guy, who sends two 14-year olds (and that’s being generous) to throw a ladder against your exterior wall, while one shimmies up two stories onto your roof, the other tosses the gas hose, and they fill up your tank.

There’s no way to check the gas level from downstairs, or anywhere in the house, aside from the mostly-inaccessible roof. So, you don’t know you’re low until your water heater shuts off or your stovetop won’t light up to wilt your spinach in the morning.


Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Internet instability.

Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Internet Problems

We pay a pretty penny (for Mexico) for reliable, high speed internet. Actually, that needs quotes. “Reliable”, high speed internet.

We’d been having a pretty healthy no-problem streak with our internet (HALLELUJAH, one thing that isn’t a complete headache), when we jinxed it by commenting how awesome it is not to have to deal with that, too.

And then the internet just stopped.

My husband spent hours on the phone with technicians, who eventually told us they’d send someone to take a look…

In FIVE business days (which worked out to be a little over a week, with a holiday that Monday).

It didn’t matter that he explained I work from home, that we don’t want to pay for over a week of service that we’re not getting (yep, we’d be expected to continue paying the full price for a full month, when we wouldn’t be receiving at least 1/4th of that), that over a week without Netflix is basically torture (hehe that one’s a bit dramatic). The customer service rep plead basic business bureaucracy, a 5 business day wait is the policy for broken internet, deal with it. A few more pointless phone calls later, and we’d given up and resigned ourselves to getting our projects done at a nearby coffee shop…

when lo and behold, a real Sabbath miracle: the internet popped back on.


Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Opening a bank account is a full-day ordeal.

Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Bank Bureaucracy

It took us almost 5 hours to open a bank account. That’s also the supposed fast track, for a “luxury” bank account at a place called Santander Select.

5 hours from the time we arrived at the bank and started the process, until we left the building. (Goddamn I was HANGRY by the time we left)

And that’s arriving with all the proper paperwork prepared, all the correct visas and documents and whatever other bullshit they might need. What they actually needed: proof of the current working position, immigration information (visa, etc), passport, and current banking information in Mexico.

Bring a book. I can’t complain, because while it requires 5 extremely unnecessary hours of bullshit, with that bank account they give you a Priority Pass (cue angels singing and a shaft of light descending from heaven), which has revolutionized our flying style.


Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Delivery dates are… suggestions at best.

Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Delivery Issues

When you move into a big empty house, the first thing you want to do is get furniture. So you can, ya know, sit and eat and sleep and feel like a human being again after moving your whole life from one city to a new one.

We planned ahead, knowing Mexico by then, and bought our furniture weeks before our move-in date. We had all of the purchase orders include the delivery date in writing. All of the store salesmen PROMISED that the furniture would arrive on or before that date.

Not one thing arrived on time.

Not. One.

Not the fridge, the couch, the bed, on and on and on. We didn’t get our bed until my husband started protesting in person at Sears, and even that didn’t help until he donned a shirt that proclaimed Sears as providing the worst service in the world. The bed arrived just two days later.

My Husband Wearing a Sears Has the Worst Service in the World Shirt

(Update for anyone moving to Mexico: Avoid Sears, Liverpool, and Palacio de Hierro delivery. For some reason, lower-end Dico was the ONLY furniture place to ever eventually show up on time)


Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Traffic is insane.

Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Traffic

Somehow, we’ve chosen 3 of the most traffic-heavy cities to live in, one right after another (Bangkok, Rio de Janeiro, Mexico City). While Mexico City is in a league of its own, you’ll still encounter intense traffic in any of the bigger cities during rush hour (and also sometimes Saturday afternoon, at least in Puebla. no idea why). It’s not all predictable, though. Random roads will be shut at random times, or 3 lane highways will be taken down to one so that a bit of painting can get done… during one of the busiest times of the week. We were once stuck on the road from Mexico City to Puebla (which usually takes an hour and a half) for FIVE HOURS. In the middle of the night. No rhyme or reason to it.

While the traffic is somewhat unpredictable, we still plan any and all outings to avoid traffic-heavy time periods, because we don’t exactly enjoy sitting in stand-still traffic for hours on end, breathing in fumes and burning up fossil fuel.


Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Crime happens.

Downside of Expat Life in Mexico: Crime

But it happens EVERYWHERE in the world.

If I had a dollar for every time someone responded to learning I live in Mexico with, “Mexico is dangerous” or “Mexico is not safe”, like they’re the utmost authority on Mexico when they spent a week in Cabo twelve years ago… I’d be a millionaire retiring on the beaches of Tulum instead of stationed in nice (but boring) suburbia.

There’s way less violent crime – especially against foreigners and people uninvolved in drugs – than the media would like you to believe, thought it still exists.

For the most part there’s just a bunch of petty crime. There’s a ton of pickpocketing and stealing. If you leave your car parked in the street, chances are you’ll come back to it in the morning and be unable to drive off because someone has snatched your tires. Seriously.


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Steph

A short vacation in Thailand turned into a life abroad with a canceled ticket home. 6 years later and after living in Bangkok, Rio de Janeiro, Mexico City, and Puebla. Steph is on to her next adventure in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. She is traveling the world to find the beautiful, inspirational, and interesting while sharing it with you!

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30 Comments

  1. June 13, 2017 / 2:25 pm

    Yep… I’m French, formerly living in Merida, Yucatan, Mexico and now on Holbox island, Quintana Roo. Same, same… and not different, unfortunately (except for traffic jams, there are no cars on the island! 😉
    I smile reading your post, at least that’s that, but obvisouly don’t when everything you said happens… It really is something to get used to to stop being bothered by it and at the same time, I truly don’t want to get used to it because it is SO annoying that they should try and change it for the best.
    But, hey, you’re in Mexico, they say…

    😉

    • Steph
      Author
      June 15, 2017 / 8:19 am

      I think there are pros and cons to every possible home location in the world… but so rarely do I read the negative side of expat life in Mexico, which is why I wanted to share. Some things are very annoying and very easily fixed (gas meters not on the roof, for example).

      I agree completely, it is SO annoying and they should try and change it for the better. Many parts of Mexico are VERY modern, yet some strange aspects lag so far behind.

    • Laura
      November 9, 2017 / 6:03 pm

      Hey! Seriously considering Merida as my retirement landing zone. What were your thoughts and opinions of the place? Thanks!

      • Steph
        Author
        November 10, 2017 / 7:55 am

        Hi Laura! I’ve actually never been to Merida. In Mexico, I’ve lived in Mexico City and Puebla, and visited Puerto Vallarta, Oaxaca, Cancun, Playa del Carmen, Isla Mujeres, and Chetumal only so far. Unfortunately, I’ve traveled much more internationally than domestically since living here, something I hope to change in 2018!

      • Cassandra Londono
        July 24, 2018 / 12:09 pm

        I used to live in Merida- it is absolutely lovely and I highly recommend the city- if you can stay in the historical district

        • Steph
          Author
          July 24, 2018 / 3:16 pm

          I went to Merida in April and loved it! We stayed in the Santiago neighborhood… I would love to go back!

  2. July 1, 2017 / 4:05 pm

    Thank you for taking the time to this South American enlightenment. I am a black guy from the Uk here. I am considering relocating to any south American country. Any candid advice would be very help, i have listed my criteria below ;
    Hospitality, friendship, safety and job…
    Nothing is 100% in life.. If i can get 65%, i am good to go.
    Thanks in anticipation.

    • Steph
      Author
      July 3, 2017 / 8:11 am

      Hi Dale!
      I think one of the most essential aspects of any South American move would be learning the language. Are you down for that? While Rio de Janeiro wasn’t for me (especially as a very foreign-looking woman), I think it’s a great place to live for a single guy (my husband agrees). Fun, friendly people and of course those gorgeous beaches.
      I’ve written about the downsides of South American living here, and the upsides of Rio de Janeiro here.
      The best advice I can give you is to of course visit first. Everyone’s opinions and priorities are different. In Rio, you will NEED to learn Portuguese, but in almost any South American city you’d need to learn Spanish. Wages tend to be lower in South America (even compared to the lower cost of living), so maybe finding a job (or a few jobs) would be step 1, helping you narrow down potential locations.

      Best of luck and please let me know if I can help in any way!

  3. Rhonda
    October 9, 2017 / 1:01 pm

    This was helpful. Thank you.

    • Steph
      Author
      October 10, 2017 / 8:08 pm

      You’re so welcome! 🙂 Glad I could help!

  4. Scott
    December 22, 2017 / 3:06 pm

    Amazon has recently opened a million square foot distribution center in Mexico. For the past couple of weeks I’ve been buying taps, TV’s, bedding, etc. and most of it gets here to Cancun promptly and at great price (ie: 2 – 3 days after I opened a prime account). THIS is a real game changer! No more going shopping ALL DAY and going to 8 stores to find something.

    • Steph
      Author
      December 26, 2017 / 8:16 am

      I have been LOVING Amazon.mx (I also opted for prime), and wish I would have utilized it more for Christmas. We had to visit 10 places before finding Christmas lights (apparently they sell out at least a week before Christmas). I’ll def be using it more.

  5. Lesley Nunn Diaz
    March 8, 2018 / 10:11 pm

    Love this!! We have moved to Playa Del Carmen and have been here for about a month. I met my husband in the US, but he is originally from Chiapas, MX. We came here because he no longer had legal status to live in the US, and of course we didn’t want to live separately. It’s definitely been interesting getting used to some of the differences. I love hearing others stories and experiences! Thanks for the laugh!

  6. Curtis Bailey
    March 23, 2018 / 1:56 pm

    Great to hear the things you don’t want to hear. From what I can tell it is normal human behavior. Usually, in any neighborhood there are people (loud music) and local bureaucracy (utilities & traffic) that is annoying and takes one out of their comfort zone. I live in Tustin, CA and was online one night and the internet went down, but a 5 day wait time is interesting it was back up in 30 minutes. Southern California traffic is no joke. I do not like getting on the roads between 7AM-10PM because of the traffic. I always sleep and walk around the apartment with ear plugs and my wireless headphones to block unwanted noise. It was a good piece to read, again most people do not share the things you do not want to hear.

  7. Bryan
    April 14, 2018 / 9:12 am

    You say “We pay a pretty penny (for Mexico) for reliable, high speed internet.”
    What would I expect to pay for that in Isla Mujeres?

    • Steph
      Author
      April 17, 2018 / 11:38 am

      I haven’t lived in Isla Mujeres so I have no clue, sorry – contacting your local internet service provider should get you the answer immediately. Or if you’re concerned about the quality of the actual package, check with others living on Isla Mujeres (I’ve found the local expat Facebook page to be really helpful, wherever I’m living in Mexico).

  8. giles
    April 17, 2018 / 1:29 am

    usa is real trouble and mexico is like italy but closer. Latins are LOUD. No noise laws are enforced. Peasants are peasants. Capiche?

    • Steph
      Author
      April 17, 2018 / 9:27 am

      That’s offensive and untrue. And noise enforcement depends on where you live – which is your choice and you can only blame yourself.

      We chose the neighborhood in Puebla I mentioned above based on the very enforceable noise regulations. The vast majority of the people living in my neighborhood were Mexican (actually there was only 1 other foreign couple), and they created the noise regulations, and yes, they do enforce them with strict fines, as stated.

      I think it’s important to be respectful and understanding of the culture you live in – including with noise – but there are still options. For us, who value our peace and quiet, we choose to pay extra and live in neighborhoods with noise ordinances, in Puebla then and in Puerto Vallarta now, and have been relatively happy with it. Big noisy interruptions only happen a few times a year, which is the same as it’d be in the US or anywhere else.

  9. June 1, 2018 / 8:38 am

    Nice post. I have been living between Thailand.. Chiang Mai and Mexico.. San Miguel de Allende /Mexico city… Since 2015.

    IF you had to chose a between Mexico and Thailand, which would you chose and why.?

    • Steph
      Author
      June 2, 2018 / 10:38 am

      The places I like to visit are usually different than the places I’d like to live. For example, I love visiting Koh Tao (Thailand) and Isla Mujeres (Mexico) and the Galapagos, but I wouldn’t want to live permanently in any of those places. I’m a city girl 🙂

      Based on living… I think both have their pros and cons, but Bangkok is my favorite city in the world to live in, with Mexico City second, for similar reasons. Low cost of living and high quality of life, high variety and quality of restaurants, “VIP” cinemas, ease of access (a quick flight) to beaches for weekends or vacations, and diversity. Bangkok wins out because of its incredible public transport (I love the SkyTrain!) and easy access to various areas of the city, and I feel safer there than I do anywhere else in the world.

  10. katie
    June 13, 2018 / 9:16 am

    Love your post. Any Idea on the hoops one needs to jump through to work in Healthcare in Mexico? I am from the UK.I am guessing that if one lived a bit more rurally it would be peaceful but perhaps the infrastructure and delivery issue would be worse??

    • Steph
      Author
      June 13, 2018 / 9:30 am

      Hi Katie!

      I’d really recommend consulting a lawyer to help you through the legalities of transferring your profession to Mexico, but here’s my understanding of the steps:
      You’ll need to get your license verified/authenticated at your local Mexican embassy (be sure that your qualification is recognized in Mexico, otherwise you’re out of luck, unfortunately). This may include showing certified, apostilled copies of your transcripts and any professional licensure documents. Save these documents as you’ll need to show them again when you apply for your work permit.

      I don’t have any experience living in rural areas, only driven through, and my experience is that the infrastructure would be considerably worse, and that a VERY high level of Spanish would be necessary to survive. I’d also imagine it’d be quite hard to find any kind of job for a foreigner out there.

  11. evy
    August 3, 2018 / 8:20 pm

    I’ve lived in over a dozen cities (some big, some smaller) in America and cops don’t do shit either … unless the victim is very important/influential…. so I’m already used to that! And I guess CA has a lot of brown/blackouts, but not in the states I’ve lived in at least

    Still i appreciate you mentioning these, hope ur not berated by any more grumpy men sister.

    • Steph
      Author
      August 7, 2018 / 5:54 pm

      I lived in small and mid-size cities in the US (no big ones) and the cops in the places I lived were always quite responsive, especially to noise complaints (I was young and usually involved on the partying end of things at that time in my life haha so I wasn’t really pleased with that).

      Overall, these complaints of mine are super minor but I like to give a full picture (the positives and the negatives) of any place I live. Luckily the grumpy men have been keeping their opinions to themselves 🙂

  12. Gwen
    August 13, 2018 / 4:53 pm

    I am planning on moving to Mexico and have already booked a trip to find out about the country. I saw a post here about Amazon Prime MX. I’m trying to find out about Amazon Mexican prime, I signed up for an account but everything is in Spanish and as of yet I do not speak or read Spanish. I am planning an extended stay there so I figured that I would have things delivered as needed. So how does an English-speaking American use Amazon prime MX when they can’t speak the language? I was on the phone over five hours with different Amazon reps who could not give me an answer since the Amazon Mexican prime website does not offer the option to switch to the English language like the American Amazon website does.

    • Steph
      Author
      August 14, 2018 / 10:02 am

      Hi Gwen!

      For English-language Amazon purchases with shipping to Mexico, the only option is Amazon.com (USA), which also ships to Mexico for some items, though shipping can get pricy depending on the item.

      There’s no option for English on Amazon Mexico, it functions under the assumption that the people using it are located in Mexico and speak Spanish. There’s also no option for any of Mexico’s recognized indigenous languages, unfortunately.

      For Spanish-speakers using Amazon in the US, they have the same issue, as Amazon.com only provides an English version, with the ES version a translation and not guaranteed accurate.

      The only option I can think of for someone wanting to use Amazon Mexico who doesn’t speak any Spanish would be to use Amazon Prime MX with the Google Chrome browser, and use the automatic translate feature from Spanish to English. This isn’t going to be perfect, and if you need to return an item or have any issues with an item, you’ll have to use google translate to communicate with the seller, which isn’t ideal. Also, Amazon.com.mx deliveries require a Mexican phone number, and the driver will call you upon arrival (they don’t just leave packages at the door like in the US) to confirm, so a bit of Spanish will be needed then as well.

      Best of luck!

      • Anonymous
        August 14, 2018 / 1:06 pm

        Thank you so much for responding. I really appreciate it.

        • Steph
          Author
          August 14, 2018 / 2:39 pm

          Happy to help! 🙂 I hope it works out! The Chrome browser’s translate feature works on any website, so that might be a helpful installation regardless of the Amazon website you choose to use, especially if you plan to use other Mexican websites (like for the grocery stores or Home Depot, which also have delivery).

  13. Serge
    September 16, 2018 / 11:01 am

    Great article. Also I can add that customer rights laws suck. If you buy some clothing, electronics in even big chain store you have to understand that you will never have your money back in this country.
    For instance, I bought New Balance a at their official shop in Mexico City, one week later they have broken. I went to that store with ticket and box – they just said that I broken them by myself, without any expertise. So, I thought that I have rights and I have created a claim in Profeco, vía their CARE program (protecting customers rights for foreigners) – I sent 10-20 emails, have spent 3 months, New Balance Mexico NEVER responded to Profeco, so… Profeco just charged (fine) them 1000 pesos for Profeco (not for me!). End of the story.

  14. isabelle marcq
    October 7, 2018 / 9:48 am

    Hola Steph,

    I really appreciate you share your experiences, I stopped doing that in Costa Rica for the bad comments I received. I am here because I am planning a trip in November, december, January to see for myself if Mexico is a country that would suit my needs. I am 50, European and multilingual, animal and plant behaviourist who has just spent 2 years in Costa Rica, (short period also in Panama and Nicaragua), volunteering in my field of expertise, and I could have described the same annoyance over Costa Rica. I could add greenwash! Life there is expensive due to the tax system, housing, bad road infrastructure. The main reasons I gave up is the weather (only 4 months of blue sky in almost 2 years, lots of rains with no real dry season) and the impossibility to get a resident permit and work permit unless you spend 200000 euros. I was thinking to travel to Yelapa, next to where you live, and then see Tulum, Veracruz. Can you get more than 6 months of sunny days? I am asking because there was a huge difference between what I read in a travel guide and the reality in Costa Rica and Panama. I am not an urban, thus I am looking for a quiet place where I could open a botanical garden. Jungle and rainforest is a must but need reliable internet. I would like to hear from you how are the Mexican people? Ticos are lovely and reliable friends, but when it comes to business, they never say no, even when they don’t have a cue. They always try to offer solutions that unfortunately are not legal, and in the long run, I didn’t know if some of them were offering for their own benefit. Many professionals don’t have a good level (at least in my field biology, entomology, botany, ecology). There is no in-depth knowledge. Do you have any idea of websites I could consult how Mexico deals with ecology? Any other places I should visit? Maybe Mexico is not the right place for me? Any other suggestion?

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